Nice piece Koda, well done and you do give everyone some good advice.
Did I say to you to the site by the way. Like the new smiley's I added.
See Yah
Lee
Lee
These days you gotta do the research on just about everything or else you get "skizzled" along the way. The business I'm in you gotta stay up on your game because folks need to know about what's good and what's not so good, and why.
A $500 mistake in this economy could mean a man does not fish or does not hunt for the rest of the year. We gotta stick together and chirp like chipping sparrows when we find out stuff like the bow data.
Just doin my job Bro
Nice bow and like anything out there now a days your right gotta research.
The same thing that brought some standards down is also a great tool "the Internet",
i research just about everything i can . and its pretty darn hard to buy all american and if possible wouldn't have enough money in my pocket to put arrows on the string .
Even going with a matthews Bow and arrow (produced in USA) gotta be aware of the componets that join the bow such as rests, sights , quivers, etc .... not all made in the USA.
I agree with the wood on the bow i would most likley go oldschool even if it means the performanbce suffers some , as long as i can put an arrow where i want it to go everytime at 15-20 yards i will be happy ....
Thanks for sharing Koda .
Ziggy
So long as you don't go macho and try to climb up on a 65 or 70 pound recurve you shouldn't have a problem grouping em instinct shooting out to 20 yards. Too, you did it before so your way ahead of the game.
If money wasn't an object I'd go with a Black Widow, but since it is, a Bear would make my day. Martin has some nice looking bows, and PSE has a LOT of nice looking recurves. And PSE is AZ USA
i think 50 lb range somewhere is where i would look to buy. i would want a black widow as well but will find a decent one for less money at some point
It don't appear that Black Widow has gotten into "plywood" yet as their bows are some handsome. But Lord they are expensive!
Koda ,
Went to check out some Bows last night when the wife had to go up and get some info for her school project on marketing . She is doing a project on a couple of major Bow manufactures and asked Randy some questions the shop pro at the store. When she was done i asked about some recurves and we looked at a couple . Hoyt has pretty nice one for about 400. i also found out that they all come in 28" draw length and the pounds depends on how long your draw is not the actual pounds of the bow , pretty interesting . my thought on this is that i would want to go with 45 lb min bow to meet the requirments of the state 40 lbs for deer . even though i know they do not check that stuff . in theroy you could buy a 40 lb bow but only have a 26" draw and not get the full 40 lbs its rated for . I figure if i goto 45-50 lbs i would be right at or around 40 lbs with a 27 " draw . I told him i would come up and check a few out to shoot he had 3-4 diffrent ones .
On a little diffrent note the new prime bow (By G5) looks sweet and i guess its quite the machine . matthews has come out with a bow(Heli)$1000. Retail, to try to compete with the new hoyt (element) $1400. retail :wtf: this stuff is crazy .. glad i got my new Z7 when i did i could have spent so much more to get about the same thing .....even that was a bit hard to swallow at $850. i prob could shoot this one for the rest of my life but have a 10 year rule LOL have to upgrade .
Hoping my shooting skills have stayed with me and i can pick it up quickly with the recurve see how it goes ....
Ziggy
Very interesting. I went the exact same route as you figuring I'd go with the 45 pound recurve since my draw isn't "spec" either. Seems most of the compounds come set at 29 inches which is about 1 1/2 inches long for me.
For the dude that draws long that is where the older Bear recurve bows have issues in that they stack some fierce. I'm told by Andy at Bear the new ones don't do that anymore. An inch one way or the other doesn't cause major poundage up or down.
The prices on about everything are getting foolish. The Bear Grizzly I had back when was under $70, now a nice fat $500. Somehow I doubt the cats actually making the bows are getting that much more money in their pay checks.
Hoyt has a TD recurve designed by Fred Eckler who is about as crazy as a bed bug, but that sucker can shoot a recurve in grand style. Priced I believe around $800
Which bow shop are you at? I have to get my Stinger set up and get some arrows and a release. I'm thinking Brian's but if you got a good one closer I'll go that route.
Morse sporting goods in Hillsboro not sure its closer , Randy is a great guy full of knowledge and has treated us very well , as far as that stuff for you i wuld call up there and talk to him . i know he is a wizard with the compounds but havnt delt with him on the recurves .
Not to mention if you come over this way you will have to drive right past my house perhaps we could meet up? the river is right across the street hint hint LOL
I recently went and took a look see at the current line of Bear Archery recurve bows. What I paid $60 for back in the early 70's is now $500. While looking for a local dealer I was directed to Dick's Sporting goods in Concord NH.
I near fell off the chair when at the bottom of Dick's ad for a Supermag 48 it said "Made In China". Ole Dick really needs to fire the idiots he has doing his web store.
I immediately contacted Bear Archery and got to speak with Andy. The entire line of Bear bows, stick bows as well as compounds are all made in Florida, previously Michigan. Phew! These days you gotta ask the questions, lest you find your dang skivvies made in China.
At current prices for new traditional bows the next step was to check "Evil Bay". Ugh!!! They want as much for 40 and 50 year old bows as Bear wants for a new one. For a collector of Bear bows there may be some sense in it, but for the dude looking for a hunting bow don't even think about it.
One of the problems you run into with the older recurves is stacking. That's to say if a given bow is rated at 50 pounds at 28 inches, when you pull 30 inches the bow may well be up to 65 or 70 pounds.
While I personally think the earlier bows were much handsomer in as far as the woods used, these days the risers are Diamond wood, which is produced by a plywood factory. Oh they're stronger and better, but if you're a wood slut like me it's nothing that will warm your heart.
The big thing with the new Bear recurve bows is the advances in glass technology. If you get to shoot a new Bear you'll see an amazing difference. The bows don't stack, they're easier to draw, and they are hands down a Hell of a lot more accurate than the older bows were. Too, they are way faster.
So this is one of those times when you should steer clear of Evil Bay and Craig's Killer List. Save the extra pennies and get the latest manufactured bow, you'll be glad you held out for the new jobber.
The other thing I found way different is now, even in a stick bow, carbon is the way to go with arrows. Lot of changes from then to now.
There you have it fellow archers.
Shoot straight
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