I am at it again.  Although the fellow at the fly shop told me not to be weary of using copper johns in size 10 on big waters, I wanted to hone my skills, and do them smaller.  I bought size 12 and 16 hooks yesterday, and here is what came out.  I started with size 16 attempting to go big or go home.

These are made with red Turkey biots and I forgot to put the flas on their backs.  Turkey biots are not as stiff as goose biots and I had a hard time positioning the wing portions, so I started using pieces of pheasant tail instead.  Not too shabby.

These ones I started using black goose biot because of their stiffness and eas of use.  I have one here that I attempted to use pheasant tail as the wings for as well, and I didn't like it as much as the goose biot.  Not t o mention once I discovered the stiffness, it was much easier to make wings with.

I think the last couple with goose biot wings look the best, but I have to make sure that I leave less material at the collar so there is room to bury the but end of the wing biots and flash.

This was tricky with my current vice set up.  It is not well suited to small flies since the jaws are a large rounded tip, instead of pointy and fine.  But I managed, by repositioning the fly for tail, body and tying off the head.

Tell me what you think folks.

Thanks,

Theron

Will do bud!  They caught me several chub in the Contoocook, also.  But of course those were not one that I tied.  Probably why I decided to tie them, honestly.

Thanks,

Theron

okay.

Thanks Koda.  Maybe someday I can get proficient enough and you can sell my flies.  LOL!

Theron

I have been looking for a local tier. You'll have to work it bass ackwards. Figure the retail and then we can figure the wholesale.

I almost pulled in some flies from Africa just to have some to offer in the store.  That was until my dealer Jamie in CT got wind of it.

First he had an out of body over it. Then, I guess the best way to describe it, was like throwin a 12 inch Kiver in a flush toilet and flushin it. When the water goes down the Kiver flops all over the place.

He was adamant that the African flies tasted sour. I did not challenge that statement as I have said that Bells Scotch Whisky tastes like skunk piss. I have in fact tasted skunk piss when one of Lorraine Peabody's leghorns ran under the porch and I went to fetch it out. Afore I got there the hen and the skunk swapped places. No need to splain further

There is no doubt in my military mind that Jamie ate one of those African flies. Good enough for me.

Hey, these are born and raised American trout we're after. Makes no sense to offer them African food, or Chinese, or Pakistani. Howsomever, if the trout start asking for menus I will immediately trigger an order for foreign flies